tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3549051936281637048.post4809534138571937795..comments2023-09-05T06:49:11.624-07:00Comments on Jay's Workshop: Undivided sux...agemmanjwhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14584348604301217214noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3549051936281637048.post-83166407130764008012013-03-04T06:46:26.024-08:002013-03-04T06:46:26.024-08:00I think using Marks of Chaos is justified for Word...I think using Marks of Chaos is justified for Word bearers, as there is a precedent for Khorne-marked/berzerker Word Bearers in the fluff. In the Anthony Reynolds trilogy, there is a character called Khalaxis (leader of the 17th Coterie), who is every bit the chainaxe wielding maniac you would expect a devotee of the Blood God to be. He and his squad undertook Khornate rituals before battle, and were deployed as close assault shock troops. The Dark Apostles he served under were willing to overlook this deviation from the path of Chaos undivided, simply because of the undeniable effectiveness of the squad in battle. They are even described as berzerkers at one point, but from the descriptions I think they stop short of 'doing a full World Eater'.<br /><br />Anyhow, seeing as it's there in the background, I use Marks in my Word Bearer force to represent this kind of specialisation... so long as I can justify it in the way I use the squad on the table. If its good enough for Jarulek/Marduk, who am I to argue? ;-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3549051936281637048.post-31195137932108883162013-02-08T18:18:14.294-08:002013-02-08T18:18:14.294-08:00Brilliant! These are all great ideas. Methinks y...Brilliant! These are all great ideas. Methinks you've thought about this a bit? :-)<br />Thank you. Knowing that this idea isn't unique to my crazy-brain makes me really want to do it now. And I really like rationalizing crazy decisions. Plus, I really like to at least look like I know what I'm doing on the tabletop...agemmanjwhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14584348604301217214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3549051936281637048.post-32407868351846385462013-02-07T07:07:13.718-08:002013-02-07T07:07:13.718-08:00Go for counts-as, but you don't even need to t...Go for counts-as, but you don't even need to tie it to specific powers of chaos - use other rationales, like special gear, training, or even just mindset. Blood Angels Death Company get FNP just by being crazy mothers, why can't chaos marines be crazy mothers too?<br /><br />Thousand Sons - "The Vengeful" - Disciples of the Insight of Hate, eliminator squads sent into battle to seek out and slay enemy captains, librarians and the like. Extra wards and field generators incorporated into their gear (those GK backpacks with extra thingies could work well) and bolters loaded with unstable warp-shells for breaching power armored targets.<br /><br />Plague Marines - "The Fated" - Disciples of the Insight of Perseverance, they know they will prevail if they endure. This surety enables them to carry on through grievous injury, but their confidence in the ultimate outcome slows their reactions as their movements become less hurried and more deliberate.<br /><br />Berzerkers - "The Vanguard" - Disciples of the Insight of Struggle, they are the first among the foe, spreading death and the Word in equal measure.<br /><br />Noise Marines - "The Flame" - Disciples of the Insight of Catharsis, the warp-flames of their weapons find unbelievers wherever they may try to hide.<br /><br />For something like a Spawn with MoN, just make it a little bigger, or add some armor plates to represent it being tougher. Work from the effect of the mark, don't get too caught up in the normal rationale that doesn't suit you.sonsoftaurushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08466971377569066201noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3549051936281637048.post-21025659423550154132013-02-06T20:24:05.123-08:002013-02-06T20:24:05.123-08:00Jay don't forget that you are going to have he...Jay don't forget that you are going to have help each game from one of us. I just played me first game with my Necrons and for not have my rules down pat they are a total beast to play against. My Wraiths tied up an entire mob of 30 boyz for two thirds of the game. Woof! No worriea we will be alright.kennethj.mitchellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16256280831431449505noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3549051936281637048.post-71159960743586920982013-02-06T15:49:48.643-08:002013-02-06T15:49:48.643-08:00Truth to that. I like the smaller-sized games mor...Truth to that. I like the smaller-sized games more myself, but the bigger games allows me to test out my 'performance hypothesis' of multiple units at the same time. And now that I have almost every model I plan on owning built and primed, it's time to give them a run and see if there's ANYTHING undivided that works well enough...agemmanjwhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14584348604301217214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3549051936281637048.post-86161390627042366622013-02-06T15:34:00.763-08:002013-02-06T15:34:00.763-08:00This is why I mentioned enjoying smaller games. It...This is why I mentioned enjoying smaller games. It seems that the higher points we use the more difficult it becomes to hold ground as undivided. But I still feel like there's a got to be a way and we just haven't found it yet...Dsanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03066307321616720032noreply@blogger.com